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  1. ... named and shamed.

    All those artists who spend hours, and hours making tunes are making nothing because of these clowns.

    I say lets start a campaign!

    I buy all my tunes, it costs me loads but I have peace of mind, not only that, I'm supporting art.

    Discuss

  2. Nobel gesture indeed! but as long as i can remember dj's, producers, and anyone in the business has always given out music. back in the day it was on tape, and record, then cd's, now on ipods, and downloads. It will never stop, but we still have to make money yes! People like you and i still buy a lot of our music, and there is a trust between producer, and dj. Here is a copy of my work please play it and keep this copy for your self. Most DJ's will keep this trade agreement. The bottom line is this has always happened so don't cry over spilled milk or in this case ...music! There is so much music out there no one can have it all or protect it form downloads. Live and let live. :cool:
  3. Oops! I must have been redirected to a forum dedicated to the discussion of piracy or DRM. I thought this was the Traktor S4 forum. ;)
  4. TeLLy

    TeLLy NI Product Owner Extraordinaire

    Gotta wonder what prompted the OP in the first place.

    I heard an old jungle track I made a long time ago, some dude was playing it on SSL - turns out he'd downloaded it from Soulseek. I was actually flattered. Voltron samples and huge filter sweeps. Huzzah.

  5. I buy all my tracks from beatport and iTunes. I also buy some Cd's.
  6. I'm a buyer, but like earlier said, we had cassets, then cd's and now bites> they create a medium and counter it immediatly > Sony made a cd player and also cd recorders ? of course people will copy.
    For artists , an other future and another way of making money. Be more creative to pay your bills> distribute your music without the bigboys, Amazon,iTunes and others who handle crazy percentages and lower prices> we pay for bits and bites not for manufacture costs

    Dj's who play illegal downloaded music, no respect . If you make money by playing other peoples music you should support the scene.

    But what the world needs is a wordly agreement on music distribution, and a realistic one> for every nation from the Us to Africa , from Asia to Europe >>>>

  7. if you get caught playing out with pirated tracks and can't provide proof you own the originals or paid for downloads you can be in big trouble .... but if your preaching the holyier than tho then it's not gonna get much support on here.
    even downloading samples is frowned upon by some.
    Anyway.... it's all about the music.... !
  8. Things I don't get as legitimate promos straight from the source, I still buy. But with that said I see little future in recordings as commodities as we know it. I never believed in streaming services like spotify, or rather I didn't want to believe it. But that is where we seem to be heading. Promos used to be for the selected few, but is now distributed to just about anyone who claims he or she is a DJ and then spread all over the net within seconds. To support yourself as a producer only is getting harder by the day and many of yesterdays professionals are now todays hobbyists. Adjust or die, I guess.
  9. I think this is too narrow a view. As both a DJ and a recording artist I can see it from both sides.

    Most successful artists spend tens of thousands of pounds/dollars trying to get their music into the hands of DJs and ensuring club and radio play. As an artist, whether established or unsigned, airplay and clubplay are priorities. I personally would provide any DJ with a track of mine if I thought it would mean airplay.

    To say the artist gets nothing is actually wrong (at least in the UK). If a track is played often by a DJ the band or artist will make money from the plays from PRS royalties. The royalties (from experience) are greater than the price of the download generally.

    So in essence an artist can actually benefit more from an illegally downloaded copy of their song - they get royalties for the play without an expensive promo campaign (my last single campaign cost me nearly £1000 just for Radio PR). 'These clowns' are the cornerstone to artists becoming successful and sustaining their success whether they buy or illegally download the tracks they play.

    I don't justify illegal downloading of music for recreational listening - I buy everything I listen to on my own time - but when it comes to DJing, I have illegally downloaded. I play to about 2500 students every week though so I do get the majority of the stuff I play on promo from labels and pr companies who are desperate for me to play it.

  10. Just a little curveball but what about producers who sample any sound and use it in a track? It happens all the time and no one says a thing, its the reverse of downloading from a blog.

    My opinion is sometimes illegal downloads help a lesser known dj because it boosts his name. Name Boost= more gigs= mo money!

  11. Do you mean sampling in a track that is released? Samples have to be cleared and generally any big release that uses the sample is doing so above board.
  12. I can speak confidently when I say MANY house music producers do not clear samples if used cleverly. Sometimes they are even blatantly sampling and do it. There are so many songs out there that most fly under the radar. Remember you don't only need to sample big parts. It can be kicks, fills, baselines or anything else that is used in song composition.
  13. great thread, I agree with most of what u guys r saying. As an unknown artist getting DJ play is in valuable. Passing a track to a mate or DJ is fine, but having a collection of pirate downloads is just wrong

    I was actually at my mates gig tonight, he downloads loads of illegals, his S4 crashed 4 times. Karma?
    ---
    ps; 3 Feet High and Rising by De La Soul, changed music as we know it today, u can't sample without clearance!

  15. One more perspective. With a lot of Electronic Music, if it wasn't for the blogs and other sites handing the music out the music would never be heard. Since everyone is a bedroom producer these days there are 1,000's of tracks released to the web each and every day. 99.9999% of this music would be lost and forgotten, that is except for the tiny percentage of music the blogs and sites deem post worthy and share for free. The artists who create this quality music get rewarded for their effort because they gain popularity. This popularity then leads to bookings and money. If you have talent and produce dope music, you are gonna make some cash. Survival of the fittest.

    Also take into consideration that this newest wave of popular Electronic Music DJ's became popular, selling out clubs and concerts mostly because the power of the internet and how quickly media spreads when it is handed out for free. Many of these DJ's are overnight sensations. They go from zero to hero in lightning speed.

    We are in an age where whole music libraries can be transferred from iphone to iphone in a few minutes. Music sharing is an unstoppable force. The music labels that haven't started changing their strategies in regards to how they market their artists and music are going to be left behind (like the remaining vinyl DJs, ha). Look at some of the most successful business' on the internet (facebook, google, twitter, yahoo). They all provide a free service. It's time to stop whining and start innovating.
    ---
    Would you rather have 1,000 people buy your track or 1,000,000 people listen to it for free? What would benefit you in the long term. I respect people that buy music, but a lot of times the artists who's music they buy are already sippin' champagne on private jets on the way to the Miami Heat game. Support the people that need support in one way or another.
    ---
    Oh and if you are a Electronic Music DJ and you want me to promote your work check out my site. You can find the link by going to my user profile. I guess that is sort of an indirect plug. my bad

  16. Yes, pirating is wrong blah blah blah... but people producing these days stand a better chance of getting their tune out there than just 10 years ago when it was much more work to get a tune pressed to vinyl.

    Where's that dead horse emoticon when needed?

  17. as sfunk says, illegal downloading is an unstoppable force. This is the way the musical landscape is and artists must find a way of working in order to take advantage of it.

    Musicians are lucky in one respect and that is that music differs greatly from Movies. When you download a movie you watch it and that is that. Music is unique in that when you consume it (listen to it) that is not the end of it but rather the beginning of its life cycle. From there it gets more listens, purchases, the artist is researched, the artist is supported via gigs etc etc.

    Any artist that doesn't see the value in a DJ playing their music out is going to find it hard to get their music to a bigger audience. In that sense I think there isn't the same level of shame upon the DJ downloading illegally as there is upon the consumer illegal downloader/filesharer.

    In the UK in 2009, PRS collected £150million from clubs and bars. Artists who are not being played in bars and clubs are missing out on a piece of this. I hate to say it but its rather obtuse of anyone to not see the full picture and immediately assume that illegal downloading by DJs has nothing but negative connotations.

  18. As I am used to lossless vinyl I will only buy WAV files .....thankfully at present there is nowhere to obtain quality music illegally so this eliminates any temptation! ....couldn't care about mp3....! However I don't know of any dnb producers that are 'mega rich' or how running an internet company like facebook for free has anything to do with it, so I am very proud and happy to support the scene by BUYING their months of hard graft....and all for less than £2 a pop!
  19. Im closing this in accordance with the rules.
    I don't want to stifle discussion but, this topic has been debated many times on this forum and always (10 out of 10 times) turns into an argument and it always turns bad.

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